[Childfree] Re: ChildFree Digest, Vol 4, Issue 12

Fri Dec 30 14:22:00 MST 2005

If giving up Social Security is the price I need to pay to stay 
childfree, no problem.  To borrow a line from West Wing, "Most people 
believe they have a better chance of seeing a UFO than their Social 
Security money."

Patty

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>   1. Interesting article (Ann Sellers)
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>   3. RE: Interesting article (Laura Hinds)
>   4. RE: Interesting article (sellers66 at comcast.net)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:49:10 -0700
>From: Ann Sellers <sellers66 at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Childfree] Interesting article
>To: childfree at lists.robsims.com
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>I thought this was worth sharing - one of the better childfree articles 
>I've seen.
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>Ann
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>http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8676
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:45:27 -0700
>From: "Chalyn" <pets4always at comcast.net>
>Subject: RE: [Childfree] Interesting article
>To: "'Ann Sellers'" <sellers66 at comcast.net>,
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>Thanks, Ann! That was an article that really did hit the nail on the
>head. I found it interesting that there are other people that had
>identified themselves as childfree at a very young age. I did, too...at
>the age of 12.
>One paragraph and quote that annoyed me was:
>Glenn says of the childfree, "If that's somebody's choice, that's
>certainly their prerogative," but then quickly adds, "I'm sure they're
>more than happy to collect the Social Security benefits from couples who
>do have children who grow up to be contributing members of society."
>He neglected to mention that we're still responsible for property taxes
>that primarily are used for school funding. Portions of my property
>taxes that go towards schools are 64% and 55%. Umm...hmmm...sure...we're
>not contributing in any way to the privilege of them having their
>children.
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>Chalyn
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>[mailto:childfree-bounces at lists.robsims.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sellers
>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:49 PM
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>Subject: [Childfree] Interesting article
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>I thought this was worth sharing - one of the better childfree articles 
>I've seen.
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>Ann
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>http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8676
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:15:23 -0700
>From: "Laura Hinds" <thesweetooth at hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [Childfree] Interesting article
>To: childfree at lists.robsims.com
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>>He neglected to mention that we're still responsible for property taxes
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>that primarily are used for school funding.
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>Good point, Chalyn.  Also, since Childfree folks are less likely to 
>waste...er, I mean, spend a bunch of money raising children they would be 
>more likely to have a variety of retirement funds available and thus less 
>likely to need Social Security.  I liked the part about how putting off 
>having children leads to an increase in income for women....I know the 
>financial aspect of having kids was one very big factor in my decision not 
>to have children.
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>Laura
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:04:06 +0000
>From: sellers66 at comcast.net
>Subject: RE: [Childfree] Interesting article
>To: childfree at lists.robsims.com
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>It constantly amazes me that the militantly childed come up with such unresearched, uneducated reasons for why we should all breed. Mr. Social Security genius conveniently overlooks the fact that we all pay taxes to support his kids' education, but of course we should feel guilty for making them pay our Social Security. Hmmm...flaw in the logic there? And let's not forget all those nice tax credits he's getting for having kids, the time he gets to leave work early because his kids have plays, doctor appointments, etc. and the extra money he gets from his company sponsored insurance when they're sick. And he has the nerve to complain about Social Security? Give me a break. 
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>Ann
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>From: "Laura Hinds" <thesweetooth at hotmail.com> 
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>>>He neglected to mention that we're still responsible for property taxes 
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>>that primarily are used for school funding. 
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>>Good point, Chalyn. Also, since Childfree folks are less likely to 
>>waste...er, I mean, spend a bunch of money raising children they would be 
>>more likely to have a variety of retirement funds available and thus less 
>>likely to need Social Security. I liked the part about how putting off 
>>having children leads to an increase in income for women....I know the 
>>financial aspect of having kids was one very big factor in my decision not 
>>to have children. 
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>>Laura 
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