[Liquidpoets] Education ..fallen by the wayside

Tue May 8 22:46:35 MDT 2012

Sorry Ted, I was sure I had that number wrong!
Keep making me feel young. :-P

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Ted Manahan <ted_manahan at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  I'll claim 35+ years, and I am always happy to talk beer and brewing!
>
> Ted
>
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> Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 09:53:49 -0600
> From: hopaholic at gmail.com
> To: bestbrew at comcast.net
> CC: LiquidPoets at lists.robsims.com
> Subject: Re: [Liquidpoets] Education ..fallen by the wayside
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>
> I'd also like to give my two cents. When we first started, I already had
> seen large, older clubs turning into drink-fests, some of which had hardly
> any homebrew and for the claimed purpose of "further education." Of course
> there's nothing wrong with that, but none of us then wanted to go there,
> which is where the tasting panel originally started. There is a lot of real
> hands-on knowledge to be shared with just that alone. As far as falling to
> any wayside, I don't think the club has ever put a huge emphasis on
> lectures and talks of that sort, though they usually come around every
> three or four months on their own.
>
> The club has always welcomed ideas, and it's worth reiterating that anyone
> who wants to give a class or present a topic or conduct an experiment has
> only to run it by the board. There is even a fancy "project proposal"
> write-up on the front page of our forums:
> http://www.liquidpoets.com/LP%20Project%20Proposal%20Plan.doc
>
> Our yearly schedule seems pretty well spread out, with Big Brew, Poetry
> Slam, BBQ, Mead Day, Winter Party and whatever else, so there's no time
> better than another to bring up a project proposal. Some of us have been in
> the club since the start, and not to say we're out of ideas, but much of
> the excitement and urge to share discoveries happens with the newer
> members. I would invite any of you that have been here one or two years to
> think of some experiment, or "homebrew wisdom" to prove or disprove, come
> up with the list of needs and estimated costs and get it to the board. It
> is always a fun thing.
>
> One element that may be in play, hindering more frequent talks, is that
> whereas before we were all very fresh in the club and excited to get to
> know each other, some 40% of us have been hanging together for quite a
> while and may feel that what one has to share might not be of interest, or
> that someone else is better qualified for the job. If so, we could
> certainly make a point to give a talk directed at noobs for instance, or
> even rope two or three of the more seasoned brewers to give a joint talk
> with Q&A. None of us knows everything, and at least one of us has been
> brewing for (what is it?) twenty-five years or something. And he's polite
> enough to let you share without a peanut gallery.
>
> One last thing (and thanks to those who've read this far): we should work
> out just how often the majority of us wants to have a talk. Is it every
> month? Every other? Just getting through some socializing and the tasting
> panel makes for a full night sometimes. If there were spots to fill on a
> schedule, maybe we could rope folks into taking their turn.
>
> The club is awesome. Highly functional. I haven't been very active lately,
> so thanks a million to you relatively few folks that keep it driving
> forward, and thanks to Joe for doing an excellent job so far.
> Cheers!
> T
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:27 AM, <bestbrew at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hello my friends:
>
>
>
>  An Open Letter to the Liquid Poets.....   from  Jim  “Doc” Damon
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>
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> Caution: *Education has fallen into a very low priority in our club!!*
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>
>
> There always seems to be a  reason why we can’t have any educational
> talks.
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>
> “The meeting place is poorly equipped for a talk”
>
>
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> “We got to dispose of all this beer “
>
>
>
> “That’s the way we have done it in the past.”
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>
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> “We don’t have the time”
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>
> Truth of the matter is that we have only had two 15 min talks in the past
> 10 months.
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>
>
> What do we need to do to improve this?
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>
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> Select meeting places where we can have a private meeting;
>
>  if this means renting a semi-permanent meeting place , so be it
>
>
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> Schedule some topics in advance...We could do *styles of the month*; pour
> beer for all and have a discussion open to all about that style and even
> discuss the members examples
>
>
>
> Have panel discussions, on broad topics such as “My favorite Yeast”   “how
> I ferment”
>
> Or  “my favorite gadget”
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>
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> Have an open forum where members can ask Brewing Questions
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>
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> Invite guest speakers to speak on Topics we choose...of interest to all
>
> We certainly have tons of  expertise in our local area.
>
>
> Truth is there are tons of way to improve our brewing knowledge;
>
>  But in order to make it work WE MUST PLAN to do it IN ADVANCE,
>
> and take some time and dedicate it to EDUCATION.
>
>
>
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